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Israel - More Religious Girls to Serve in Army Than Ever Before

Published on: November 18, 2011 07:36 AM
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FileIsrael - The IDF expects a sharp increase in the number of religious girls who opt for full army service in the coming year. During the draft period between April 2010 and April 2011, some 1,200 18-year-old young women who classified themselves as observant entered the ranks of the IDF. Army officials expect that number to grow by about 25% this year, with some 1,500 girls signing up for service by the time the current draft period ends in April 2012.

For the third year in a row, the IDF held a conference Wednesday designed to answer questions by potential religious female draftees about army service. Officials of the IDF education unit, which sponsors the event, were said to be shocked at the large number of girls; over 1,000 attended, the largest number of attendees in the three years the event has taken place. It is hifhly possible that this reflects the growing population of religious girls and is not larger percentage-wise.

Currently there are some 2,000 religious female soldiers, serving in a variety of capacities – many of them in administrative and educational capacities. At least one is in line to be promoted to the rank of brigadier-general. In response to the demand, the IDF has opened up a number of new opportunities for religious female soldiers that would be appropriate for them – ie; allowing them to avoid intensive battlefield conditions with male soldiers, and allowing them to dress appropriately, with skirts, etc. The opportunities were decided upon after IDF soldiers conferred with the Chief IDF Rabbinate and the Alumah organization, which aids female religious soldiers.

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The girls who enter into active IDF service most often do so against the advice of family and community. All Orthodox rabbis – from both the hareidi and the national religious world – ban IDF service for girls, except for the situationwhere Israel would be in such danger that everyone had to enlist.

All of Israel’s Chief Rabbis, Sephardic and Ashkenazi, have from the beginning of the state banned such service as well – and would have liked to see all Jewish Israeli girls exempt from the army - instead suggesting that girls volunteer for the National Service (sherut le’umi) program, which the Knesset has adopted as a full substitute for religious girls who wish to serve the country and will not join the army.



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 Nov 18, 2011 at 07:42 AM farrockgrandma Says:

Excellent idea - and no kol isha problem.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 07:52 AM PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 08:47 AM Eagle Says:

who cares

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 08:59 AM YOELYG Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

Excellent comment #2 thanks, BTW its not religious Girls, can't belive they sould have chuzpa against ther parents, its probebly some drop outs or seculer or reform leider

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 09:24 AM Shula Says:

Well, if all religious young men served in the army, then maybe women would not have to. With men not working, not supporting their families, women have to do it all: work, give birth, bring up kids, AND serve in the army. Indeed, HaShem Yirachem. Good for the girls! Kol ha-kavod to them.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 09:28 AM ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Reply to #4  
YOELYG Says:

Excellent comment #2 thanks, BTW its not religious Girls, can't belive they sould have chuzpa against ther parents, its probebly some drop outs or seculer or reform leider

Can't believe you have the CHUTZPAH to equate serving in the military with being reformed. News for you, there ARE religious girls in the Israeli Army, and in the American Military. I am proud of the orthodox friends that I have that have served in the Army and the Marines. What are YOU doing to protect this great nation that gives you the freedom to make such ignorant statements?

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 09:59 AM Anonymous Says:

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ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Can't believe you have the CHUTZPAH to equate serving in the military with being reformed. News for you, there ARE religious girls in the Israeli Army, and in the American Military. I am proud of the orthodox friends that I have that have served in the Army and the Marines. What are YOU doing to protect this great nation that gives you the freedom to make such ignorant statements?

It's not true. Ultra orthodox girls are not in the US army.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM Chaim Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

Actually they do. In England the royalty all serve in the army.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM Moshe Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

What is the excuse of the boys?

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM Dovid Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

Kain tirubu

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 10:41 AM Phineas Says:

Milchemes Mitzvah: "Even a bridegroom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy" . So it's a question on whether you consider fighting for the country a milchemes mitzvah.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM JPAC Says:

The army has more than enough soldiers,in fact too many. There are over a half million Russian non Jews in Israel and many other non Jewish nationalities, so the army is pact. Leave the Chareidim and frum girls alone.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 10:53 AM Anonymous Says:

Rachmana Litzlan. The Chazon Ish had said that it is yehareg ve'al yaavor for a Jewish woman. We know how many frum men come out of army service, rachmana litzlan. So it's kol sheken for women. Of course serving in such an army is forbidden for anyone whose ancestors stood at Har Sinai.

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 11:08 AM TheRealJoe123 Says:

The Israeli Government is simply testing how far they can push the charadi and national religious community without them revolting I mean everyone one knows that Israel would do just fine without any women in the army I mean at the end of the day what does Israel need frum soldiers in all the elite units or some women in the army orchestra the same thing goes for the low level of Kosher food in the army and commanders whom make their frum soldiers be machalal shabos when its not needed Israel has got to wake up before the National religious join their brothers in Meah shaharim

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 11:12 AM Anonymous Says:

Finally some GOOD NEWS!!!

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 11:16 AM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #6  
ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Can't believe you have the CHUTZPAH to equate serving in the military with being reformed. News for you, there ARE religious girls in the Israeli Army, and in the American Military. I am proud of the orthodox friends that I have that have served in the Army and the Marines. What are YOU doing to protect this great nation that gives you the freedom to make such ignorant statements?

While men should be proud to serve in the military, all the gedolim prohibited it for woemn. I think this should even apply more to frum women in the U.S. military as the number of frum Jews is tiny and the atmosphere is not just secular but goyish as well..

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM Weeee Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

Queen Elizabeth and King Philip's daughter serves in the army

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 11:39 AM Weeee Says:

Reply to #2  
PowerUp Says:

Hashem yerachem, what happened with kol kvida bas melech pnima???!!! Does the kings daugther enlist in the army???!!!

All the gedoilem no matter from which side of the isle where against this!!!

This is thanks to the orthodox agudah and other orthodox organizations that believed we can negotiate with the secular zionists!!!

This is the threat of zionist, this is what ourt holy rabbis have feared!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me I meant Prince Philip

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 Nov 18, 2011 at 01:44 PM TheRealJoe123 Says:

Reply to #6  
ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Can't believe you have the CHUTZPAH to equate serving in the military with being reformed. News for you, there ARE religious girls in the Israeli Army, and in the American Military. I am proud of the orthodox friends that I have that have served in the Army and the Marines. What are YOU doing to protect this great nation that gives you the freedom to make such ignorant statements?

Please I am friends with more then 1 U.S armed service current and former and its dishonest to say that you can be frum and serve unless ur a chaplain or high ranking medical personal.

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 Nov 19, 2011 at 04:30 PM YJay1 Says:

Reply to #17  
Weeee Says:

Queen Elizabeth and King Philip's daughter serves in the army

Oh, come on, we are the children of the King of Kings - not to be even remotely compared with some British Royalty, and anyway the royalty we are talking about is more spiritual than physical.

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 Nov 19, 2011 at 04:38 PM YJay1 Says:

Reply to #17  
Weeee Says:

Queen Elizabeth and King Philip's daughter serves in the army

This whole article is one big joke. In the article itself it's written: "All Orthodox rabbis – from both the hareidi and the national religious world – ban IDF service for girls", so the million dollar question is; how could you be religious and yet disobey all the religious Rabbis? The obvious answer is that these girls ARE NOT religious, they might be coming from religious homes, but THEY are not religious. Simple logic!

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 Nov 19, 2011 at 04:41 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #11  
Phineas Says:

Milchemes Mitzvah: "Even a bridegroom from his chamber and a bride from her canopy" . So it's a question on whether you consider fighting for the country a milchemes mitzvah.

In the Talmud (if I'm not mistaken it's in Sanhedrin) it says that the only Milchemes Mitzvah there is is Kivush Ha"Aretz in the times of Yehoshua.

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 Nov 22, 2011 at 11:30 AM zevi Says:

Reply to #6  
ModernLakewoodGuy Says:

Can't believe you have the CHUTZPAH to equate serving in the military with being reformed. News for you, there ARE religious girls in the Israeli Army, and in the American Military. I am proud of the orthodox friends that I have that have served in the Army and the Marines. What are YOU doing to protect this great nation that gives you the freedom to make such ignorant statements?

#23 what is considered religious by you may be far from religious by S'U standards

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 Nov 22, 2011 at 01:02 PM FredE Says:

Reply to #21  
YJay1 Says:

This whole article is one big joke. In the article itself it's written: "All Orthodox rabbis – from both the hareidi and the national religious world – ban IDF service for girls", so the million dollar question is; how could you be religious and yet disobey all the religious Rabbis? The obvious answer is that these girls ARE NOT religious, they might be coming from religious homes, but THEY are not religious. Simple logic!

Heres another possibility: Your leaders are wrong and everyone should do their utmost to protect the country from its many enemies.

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 Nov 23, 2011 at 07:41 AM Naftush Says:

Reply to #12  
JPAC Says:

The army has more than enough soldiers,in fact too many. There are over a half million Russian non Jews in Israel and many other non Jewish nationalities, so the army is pact. Leave the Chareidim and frum girls alone.

Now there's an idea: a tribal exemption from military service, on Jewish grounds no less, and the expansion of the Shabbes goy concept to the new notion of a Milchomeh goy! Think of where this could go -- exempting Cohanim and Levi'im because they've got to be on call for the Mikdosh, drafting "non Jewish nationalities" to be our Parnassah goyim, etc. If this is typical of the thinking of "Chareidim and frum girls," they don't need to be left alone; they're already very, very alone.

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