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Germany - Jewish Group Applauds Arrest of Former KKK Leader David Duke

Published on: November 30, 2011 09:12 AM
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Germany - An American Jewish group is applauding German police for taking former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke into custody before he could address a far-right gathering.

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Elan Steinberg, vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants, said Wednesday the move “sends an important signal that firm action against those who advocate hate must remain central to Germany’s moral and legal agenda.”

Cologne police say Duke, 61, was taken into custody Friday before his speech for breaking a travel-ban to many European nations including Germany.

They say the U.S. resident was released and forced to leave the country and that they do not know where he is now.

Duke’s website called the incident “thuggish communist-style oppression to suppress the right-wing.”



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 Nov 30, 2011 at 10:02 AM Anonymous Says:

I guess this is what they refer to as "democracy" and "freedom of speech" in Germany today. The Thought Police determine who can speak and who cannot speak. Baruch Hashem at least here we still have the First Amendment. Because otherwise today it's David Duke and tomorrow it's a lawsuit against yeshivas for keeping boys and girls separate or not giving aliyas to women, or other types of "discrimination." Just watch out folks. Be careful what you wish for. It's enough that people hold that Yidden control world governments, It's going to backfire on us big time.

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM SherryTheNoahide Says:

Oh please! What a whiner! I'm glad Germany did the right thing (for once, right? lol), and kicked his butt back onto the plane & out of the country! I can't stand that guy!

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 10:30 AM genmill Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

I guess this is what they refer to as "democracy" and "freedom of speech" in Germany today. The Thought Police determine who can speak and who cannot speak. Baruch Hashem at least here we still have the First Amendment. Because otherwise today it's David Duke and tomorrow it's a lawsuit against yeshivas for keeping boys and girls separate or not giving aliyas to women, or other types of "discrimination." Just watch out folks. Be careful what you wish for. It's enough that people hold that Yidden control world governments, It's going to backfire on us big time.

Are you for real? So should hate crimes be tolerated? What about spray painting swastikas? "Today its hate crimes, tomorrow they will be suing yeshivos".
Lol you are a nut.
Holocaust denial is illegal in many european countries, making death threats against the president is illegal here in the US (I believe). According to you should those kind of things be legal?

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM Phineas Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

I guess this is what they refer to as "democracy" and "freedom of speech" in Germany today. The Thought Police determine who can speak and who cannot speak. Baruch Hashem at least here we still have the First Amendment. Because otherwise today it's David Duke and tomorrow it's a lawsuit against yeshivas for keeping boys and girls separate or not giving aliyas to women, or other types of "discrimination." Just watch out folks. Be careful what you wish for. It's enough that people hold that Yidden control world governments, It's going to backfire on us big time.

You do not understand that freedom of speech, even in the U.S., is not unlimited. Also, given Germany's unique history, it is understandeable that certain safeguards are implemented. Your slippery slope argument, like most slippery slope arguments, is improbable.

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 11:29 AM bigwheeel Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

I guess this is what they refer to as "democracy" and "freedom of speech" in Germany today. The Thought Police determine who can speak and who cannot speak. Baruch Hashem at least here we still have the First Amendment. Because otherwise today it's David Duke and tomorrow it's a lawsuit against yeshivas for keeping boys and girls separate or not giving aliyas to women, or other types of "discrimination." Just watch out folks. Be careful what you wish for. It's enough that people hold that Yidden control world governments, It's going to backfire on us big time.

No. Germany today appears to have learned the lessons of being indifferent to demagogues and haters who incite parts of the population against one or more minority groups.

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 12:46 PM Anonymous Says:

To #2- Germany did the right thing, whether you agree with it or not. Unfortunately, Nazi ideology was not completely wiped out on May 8, 1945. After Germany surrendered, they staged guerilla attacks against Allied troops, for years. Sixty six years later, there are still Nazi elements in Germany who don't like Jews, Turks, Gypsies, Blacks, or other non-Aryans. Germany and other EU countries have the right to keep undesirable elements out of their country, in the same manner that the USA can deny a visa to someone who can cause problems. Every country has the right to decide whom it can admit, and whom it can keep out. David Duke is a trouble maker, and a Holocaust revisionist. Your agreeing with his right to speak reminds me of the Jewish lawyers at the ACLU, who fought for the rights of the Nazis to march in Spokie, Illinois, in 1977.

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 01:30 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

I guess this is what they refer to as "democracy" and "freedom of speech" in Germany today. The Thought Police determine who can speak and who cannot speak. Baruch Hashem at least here we still have the First Amendment. Because otherwise today it's David Duke and tomorrow it's a lawsuit against yeshivas for keeping boys and girls separate or not giving aliyas to women, or other types of "discrimination." Just watch out folks. Be careful what you wish for. It's enough that people hold that Yidden control world governments, It's going to backfire on us big time.

Your thoughts are SICK, distorted and dangerous

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 01:31 PM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #4  
genmill Says:

Are you for real? So should hate crimes be tolerated? What about spray painting swastikas? "Today its hate crimes, tomorrow they will be suing yeshivos".
Lol you are a nut.
Holocaust denial is illegal in many european countries, making death threats against the president is illegal here in the US (I believe). According to you should those kind of things be legal?

David Duke is one of the most vile and disgusting people walking this planet and I can only hope he is spit on and mocked everywhere he goes. When he is dead his neshoma should know no peace.

That being said, a free society does not impede speech or thought. Period.

Whether is be holocaust denial or being anti-gay marriage, here in the US I am allowed to have my own opinions and express them without interference from the government. That is the definition of FREEDOM.

He is not advocating violence, or committing violence. He is just spewing out nonsensical garbage.

We even allowed this piece of filth to run for President. In the 80's he was one of the remaining "Dixiecrats"... the racist group that once dominated the Democratic Party. He, like most of the remaining white supremacists then switched to the Republican Party in the 90's. He ran for President under BOTH banners.

David Duke should be a reminder to all of us that FREEDOM means FREEDOM for everyone. It is the same FREEDOM that lets us live a Torah life in golus.

As Americans, we should never tolerate this kind of tyranny, even when the victim is nothing more than a pile of human filth.

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 02:52 PM Billy Says:

I've personally had many arguments on his YouTube page till I realized to what extent he hates Jews that he fabricates such lies which would have made Hitler look innocent in comparison so #2 just think what you write before you do because the day this person dies will be a victorious one for all Yidden and the whole of society. This is not a matter of freedom of speech, it's a matter of hate crimes which can not be tolerated in any country in the world. Well done Germany.

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 03:32 PM genmill Says:

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PMOinFL Says:

David Duke is one of the most vile and disgusting people walking this planet and I can only hope he is spit on and mocked everywhere he goes. When he is dead his neshoma should know no peace.

That being said, a free society does not impede speech or thought. Period.

Whether is be holocaust denial or being anti-gay marriage, here in the US I am allowed to have my own opinions and express them without interference from the government. That is the definition of FREEDOM.

He is not advocating violence, or committing violence. He is just spewing out nonsensical garbage.

We even allowed this piece of filth to run for President. In the 80's he was one of the remaining "Dixiecrats"... the racist group that once dominated the Democratic Party. He, like most of the remaining white supremacists then switched to the Republican Party in the 90's. He ran for President under BOTH banners.

David Duke should be a reminder to all of us that FREEDOM means FREEDOM for everyone. It is the same FREEDOM that lets us live a Torah life in golus.

As Americans, we should never tolerate this kind of tyranny, even when the victim is nothing more than a pile of human filth.

Wow. Ok so in your infinite wisdom where do we draw the line? If you want to go to town with freedom then why are there laws? Why do I have to obay a speed limit? Why can't I own a gun without a permit? FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM. Wake up bro, freedom does not mean hefker. You can't endanger other people. And inciting hatred does just that. And before you tell me I'm wrong, think about how hitler started. Imagine if his propeganda had been silenced..... Well I guess you would have left him alone cuz hey, free speech right?
Words are dangerous.....

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 03:33 PM Anonymous Says:

To #9-PMO in Florida- In a recent posting, you stated that you were harassed and cursed at by anti-semites in Florida, who didn't even know you. Yet, there seems to be a dichotomy with your approval of Duke having his freedom of speech, to spew forth his inflammatory rhetoric, which in the past in Germany, led to the persecution of Jews and other minorities. You viewpoint just doesn't make sense, and is completely illogical!

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 05:24 PM ChachoMoe Says:

Reply to #2  
Anonymous Says:

I guess this is what they refer to as "democracy" and "freedom of speech" in Germany today. The Thought Police determine who can speak and who cannot speak. Baruch Hashem at least here we still have the First Amendment. Because otherwise today it's David Duke and tomorrow it's a lawsuit against yeshivas for keeping boys and girls separate or not giving aliyas to women, or other types of "discrimination." Just watch out folks. Be careful what you wish for. It's enough that people hold that Yidden control world governments, It's going to backfire on us big time.

Hmm...I guess self-hating liberal minds like you would advocate Mein Kampf' and The Protocals of Zion' as "free speech" i always wondered how hitler got away w his propgonda before he was in power...

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 07:15 PM Anonymous Says:

Reply to #4  
genmill Says:

Are you for real? So should hate crimes be tolerated? What about spray painting swastikas? "Today its hate crimes, tomorrow they will be suing yeshivos".
Lol you are a nut.
Holocaust denial is illegal in many european countries, making death threats against the president is illegal here in the US (I believe). According to you should those kind of things be legal?

You hillbilly. David Duke was not arrested for drawing swastikas. He was arrested for his IDEAS. Do you also belong to the THOUGHT POLICE. Just wait until someone arrests you for having the WRONG opinion about Yoshke.......THERE IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITH PROVISIONS UNDER MANY CONSTITUTIONS FOR INCITEMENT. Barring incitement people have a right to say whatever they want under the US Constitution which does not exist in Germany or most other countries, including your beloved Medinah.......

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 Nov 30, 2011 at 07:17 PM Anonymous Says:

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Anonymous Says:

Your thoughts are SICK, distorted and dangerous

Argumentum ad Hominem is the last refuge of someone without the ability to discuss the substance of an issue. You redneck, go look it up in your high school dictionary.

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 Dec 01, 2011 at 09:39 AM PMOinFL Says:

Reply to #11  
genmill Says:

Wow. Ok so in your infinite wisdom where do we draw the line? If you want to go to town with freedom then why are there laws? Why do I have to obay a speed limit? Why can't I own a gun without a permit? FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM. Wake up bro, freedom does not mean hefker. You can't endanger other people. And inciting hatred does just that. And before you tell me I'm wrong, think about how hitler started. Imagine if his propeganda had been silenced..... Well I guess you would have left him alone cuz hey, free speech right?
Words are dangerous.....

You are clearly a New Yorker. In most of the country you can own all the guns you want with no permits.

SPEECH, however, is free. For example, if we were to have an anti-Hezbollah rally, could someone not claim that we were spreading hate against Palestinians? Where does THAT end?

There are all kinds of propagandists in this world. Here in America we hold them up on pedestals as if they were prophets, even when we can prove it is all lies and theater (ie. propaganda). Just look at our politicians like Michelle Bachmann and Barney Frank... both masters of lying and devout propagandists. Yet, the people love them. Our information sources like Keith Olbermann and Glen Beck... two masters of propaganda and two of the biggest liars on record. Americans LOVE them.

The day we start telling people what they can and cannot think or say is the end of civilization. we have over 300,000 (estimated) white supremacists in this country. We would never even THINK of curtailing their speech. Why? Because suppression only makes them STRONGER. THEY become the victim and that is how they gain support.

Don't be so short-sighted.

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 Dec 02, 2011 at 12:16 AM brucewhain Says:

Reply to #16  
PMOinFL Says:

You are clearly a New Yorker. In most of the country you can own all the guns you want with no permits.

SPEECH, however, is free. For example, if we were to have an anti-Hezbollah rally, could someone not claim that we were spreading hate against Palestinians? Where does THAT end?

There are all kinds of propagandists in this world. Here in America we hold them up on pedestals as if they were prophets, even when we can prove it is all lies and theater (ie. propaganda). Just look at our politicians like Michelle Bachmann and Barney Frank... both masters of lying and devout propagandists. Yet, the people love them. Our information sources like Keith Olbermann and Glen Beck... two masters of propaganda and two of the biggest liars on record. Americans LOVE them.

The day we start telling people what they can and cannot think or say is the end of civilization. we have over 300,000 (estimated) white supremacists in this country. We would never even THINK of curtailing their speech. Why? Because suppression only makes them STRONGER. THEY become the victim and that is how they gain support.

Don't be so short-sighted.

With 300,000 members it doen't look like the white supremacist fraktion poses a clear and present danger, though there is a lot of propaganda from other corners that does, for both US and Israel. David Duke's KKK association is a national embarassment. I mean it's really racist and there's nothing he can do to change it. But what he believes in and wants to promote for white Europeans is based on Jewish thought, so Jews should be flattered (if you don't mind being flattered by Frankenstein) despite his sometimes embarrasing personality problems. Not every Jewish figure is without embarracing foibles either.

One Jewish public figure, not embarasing, and a really righteous man to my mind, was/is? David Cole - said to have been "dissapeared" some years ago - who was an insightful Holocaust denier. He used video as his medium back in the 90s, and a large sample of his work can be found at Holocaust Denial Videos, a highly informative website with lots of other really well done videos by a person who calls himself denier bud. As you may have guessed, I'm a German-descended-Lutheran Holocaust denier (right here in Crown Heights) - which is illegal in Germany, I mean they lock you up.

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