Elad, Israel – Ashkenazi and Sephardi Rabbis Battle over Sabbath Hours

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    Elad, Israel – The inauguration of the Sabbath in Elad has recently become the tensest hour of the week, following a disagreement between the city’s Sephardic rabbi and its Ashkenazi rabbi.

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    The two cannot agree on the exact time for inaugurating the Sabbath. Even the leaders of the Orthodox public, Gedolei Yisrael, were involved against their will, but a solution has not been found.

    The roots of the disagreement go back a long way: the Ashkenazi rabbi, Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Grossman, has always maintained that the Sabbath enters 30 minutes before the sun sets, while the Sephardic rabbi, Rabbi Mordechai Malka, puts it at 20 minutes. According to Halacha (Jewish law), every city is supposed to set additional time before sundown on the eve of the Sabbath. Most places allow for 20 minutes, but the Ashkenazi rabbis in Elad have refused, since the city was established, saying that a special window of time must be allowed for, as in places like Safed and Bnei Brak (30 minutes), and almost like that which is allowed for in Jerusalem and Petah Tikva (40 minutes). The Safardis acted according to their tradition, and added just 20 minutes, even when the sirens of Elad sounded according to the Ashkenazi system.

    Full story at Haaretz.com


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    BeKind
    BeKind
    12 years ago

    This sort of dispute only alienates those that are “not yet frum”. If we want to engage in effective kiruv, we have to avoid this sort of machlokes.

    shredready
    shredready
    12 years ago

    Rabbi Grossman said this is a case of “pikuah nefesh” (Saving a Life), because as soon as Shabbat comes in the roads are filled with pedestrian worshipers rushing to the synagogue as the latecomers speed through the streets on their way home

    watch where you walk just like every other day of the week

    lame excuse

    12 years ago

    Hidur shabbos = Derabonan, Machlokes and chillull hashem = Issur Deoraisa, sometimes people unfortunately get carried away with the real torah principals and priorities.

    gelept
    gelept
    12 years ago

    To comment 1
    I agree with your point but forget about kiruv, this is insane! i would find it funny if it wasn’t so sad.
    also the phrase “engage in effective kiruv” what does that mean? f u care about another yid you can bring him closer to hashem. We need to do our part and not give up because of a fight in eldad. that would be like saying “there are so many people giving orthodoxy a bad name so how can we reach out to anyone” anyway lets make sure we show our children alot of love, so if they become a rabbi, the community wont have to deal with these things.

    12 years ago

    With all the problems Israel faces today, this is what they argue about?? I am at a loss for words.

    HBShmoe
    HBShmoe
    12 years ago

    If it wasn’t so sad it would be funny. It sounds like Chelm or something out of Gulliver’s Travel!

    12 years ago

    Some of us actually work and have jobs and an extra 20 minutes means a lot. To the rest of you that are supported by others start Shabbos when you want. Don’t dictate it to others.

    skvererebbe
    skvererebbe
    12 years ago

    wow ! 30 minutes is not e’lad more then 20 ! maybe compromise ! how about o 25 minutes ?! or perhaps 20 minutes winter time and 30 minutes in the summer !? (only problem in a “iber” year who gets “adar baiz” ? sefard ?or nusech ashkenaz !? )

    12 years ago

    Must do like the minhag whatever it is. In France in the summer the latest time everybody accepts Shabbos is 8:30 even though sunset is much later

    georgewashingtonbridge
    georgewashingtonbridge
    12 years ago

    The obvious solution is to have two city gates, one for Sefardim and one for Ashkenazim. Maybe the “modern” and secular contingents will want their own gates as well.

    WiseDude
    WiseDude
    12 years ago

    I just love our new custom of using wailing air raid sirens to announce Shabbos. so peaceful and relaxing sounding! What a wonderful new minhag!

    YJay1
    YJay1
    12 years ago

    What’s the big deal? There was no violence over there. Open up any page of the Talmud and you will find at least one Machlokes. I don’t think anybody who was truly religious got turned off by those disputes, so why should they now. Frankly, in a certain sense I was happy to read about this Machlokes, it shows us that B”H Torah is going strong and that people still care about Halacha and Minhagim. As long as it’s only on paper and doesn’t turn to violence it is perfectly fine. It seems like most of the posters here never opened a Sefer and never learned a little Jewish History, had they, they would of seen that this was literally part of Jewish life in every generation.

    LevBaruch
    LevBaruch
    12 years ago

    As an oleh chadash from L.A. to El’ad, if such a b’shem shamayim makhlokes – over the pros & cons of moving an entire community in the direction of mehadrin min hamehadrin Torah observance – makes “the inauguration of the Sabbath in Elad… the tensest hour of the week”, I didn’t know it until my brother referred me to this article… and my heartfelt feeling that El’ad is indeed k’gan eden, is magnified.