New York – VIN News has learned from high-ranking Iranian officials that a New York meeting between President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and members of the radical anti-Zionist Neturei Karta group was canceled at-the behest of Ahmadinejad himself.
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Neturei Karta members reportedly were scrambling to secure a meeting with Ahmadinejad himself during his recent visit to New York for the U.N. meeting. Hope seemed “lost” until the group actually succeeded in arranging for a face-to-face with the firebrand head of state-only to have that meeting suddenly canceled, by no less than Ahmadinejad himself.
According to VIN’s sources, it is said that the Iranian president has lost total interest in the Neturai Karta, and views them as zealots with no serious following within the Jewish community.
Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss of Neturei Karta confirmed to VIN News that their group did not meet last week with Ahmadinejad, but declined to provide a reason.
Two years ago, members of the group scored international headlines, and a fierce firestorm to match, when they appeared at a Holocaust-denial conference in Teheran to publicly and literally embrace Ahmadinejad. The group has also met Ahmadinejad in 2007 while visiting New York.
Meanwhile nowadays, Famous Austrian Rabbi Moishe Arye Friedman, the formerly high-ranking official who facilitated that infamous event, has done teshuvah. As described in an exclusive interview with VIN, the activist no longer agrees with the NK’s philosophy, and believes what most said about it for decades: that it is a dangerously foolhardy calculation for a handful of extremists to claim international Torah Jewish representation, especially on such a critical issue as the safety and security of fellow Jews-not to mention a humiliating chilul Hashem.
Rabbi Friedman is reputedly using his connections and influence in high ranks of the International Community places to now thwart, not facilitate, publicity-heavy meetings between members of the group and Ensure the good Image on the Jewish community on the International Arena.
Although most commentors will certainly rejoice at this development, I think this does not bode too well for us. B/c in the end of the day he always looked at nk as jews and now he won’t even meet with the few jews that he has met in the past.
If NK themselves don’t understand that they don’t belong with those terrorists, the terrorists themselves will have to tell it to them in their face. How embarrassing this must be for them!
I guess ahmadinejad ym”sh is crazy but not an idiot like the NK.
lets hope this will finally show them how wrong and crooked they are.
Did they REALLY believe that Ahmadinejad was their Buddy!! REALLY!!!
RAHI, ” DIN HU ESAV SONEH YAKOV”!
When bombs fall it won’t just fall and only hit TZIONIM, Litvish, Yeshivish, Chassidim, Separdim or just plain old shomre torah umetzvos “unaffiliated” yidden!
IT WILL HIT NK”S TOO!
Hashem Yerachaeim!
Oy gevald! Ahmadinijad became a Tzioni!
These are not NK . Thery hijacked the name . They are a handful of kooks . maybe 10 or so . The real NK has nothing to do with them . Not agreeing with the the secular zionist medinah ,does not mean meeting with people who want to kill millions of your brothers r”l .
Oy, the NK lost what little “kavod” they had. They can now return to the dust heap.
I guess Ahmedisanutjob has tired from these useful idiots….
He is gchapted in tzyones
hamoser ein lo chelek le-olam haba
Wow, even A-jad sees NK are screwy mishaganes!
Yeah, I was a demonstration last week in Manhattan and even the Goyim that were just observing knew that Weiss Group does not represent basic Orthodox Jews.
Neturei Karta would have met with Hitler if they had existed at the time.
The time has come to pressure Satmar to forcefully kick them out of their midst.Same thing for Chabad who have to forcefully kick out their yellow troublemakers
Silly Neturei Kappos. Hitler killed all the Jews he could, the collaborators as well as the resistors.
This is exactly what I commented here on VIN 2 years ago. I said that they should be careful with their new friend because it’s all a game to see which way the wind will blow for this delusional monster, Ahmadinijad. He will never like any jew, regardless of affiliation. He wants to obliterate all of us. Hence, I am elated that this had happened. Now the nituray karta is a total loss: no friends in Iran, and no friends in Klal Yisrael. They will finally realize that the Rshoim are all the same, in Gaza and Iran.
Poor NK, being rejected by their big friend, the Hitler y”s of our time. They must feel so bad about themselves.
To 17: Please don’t compare apples and roaches. There is no similarity between NK who side with mass murderers of Jews, and frum Jews who might take their Moshiach excitement to an extreme. One is about endangering human life, and one is about a theological view you disagree with. Please.
I am not a psychiatrist. But if I had to guess, I would say that the NK people are just misfits who enjoy the attention they otherwise would not have. If they were just regular Jews, no one would notice them. They have no real accomplishments other than advocating stupidity and rishis.
What is the purpose of these meetings? What are they trying to accomplish, other than make a statement and show solidarity?
FOOOOOOOOOLLLLLS!! and now even the NK can’t appease him! This is a great warning for us! Take heed!! Imagine if Mordichai Hatzadik wasn’t able to come close to the rusha Achashvayrosh!?
‘Vavdil eschem min haamim lihiyos li’
We always had to pay a high price for those of us who “cozied up” to our enemies
was it not only two days ago that we davened “Uv’chein tain pachdecha….. ve’yira’ucha KOL hamasim” etc. Now that the tefilois have been partially answered, lets daven that they will be answered in its entirety and ah-jad ym”sh will also have Yirah for the boirei oilam!, with the final show to the world who the real mighty one is!
AMEN.
Wishing all readers a Chag Sameach
Rashi states
“oi l’rasaha v’ oi l’shcheino”
or as i understand it
if you meet with pigs, you will soon stink.
I wonder if he will return all the gifts he got from the NK… Expensive silver, no less.
The first to throw out these Meshguim was the Vizhnitzer Rebbe OBM. They made a rebellion against the Rav who is now the Rebbe he should have a Refua Shleima. It was in 1963 after he took them in fed them clothed them married them off & they spit him in the face. I’m not surprised they joined Assmedinijad they were Kofi Toiva which is the lowest madreiga you can get.
Amadinijad, finally, after many years of socializing with these fanatics, came to the realization that only a handful of (20) jews believe in the so called, “Peaceful dismanteling of the state of Israel” , because they follow this self hating jew, Mosha David Weiss, or whatever his name is. As soon as reality set in, he noticed that the nituray karta aren’t helping him a lot, he dropped them like a hot potato.
The Nituray karta with all of their so called wisdom and rambling on cable TV (with utter chilull Hashem) about the Torah law, didn’t even dream that perhaps one day, the Ayatollas will turn against them.
At least one of them have Yiras Shamayim
Hashem is helping NK to see things clearer and do teshuvah
You think this weiss is normal now, he just did “teshuvah” yo get more attention.
maybe it’s because that Friedman person did teshuvah, as the article says, and changed his mind about all that stuff, that Ach. doesn’t like them anymore….
This doesn’t change the fact that Neturei Karta continues to use Judaism and the Torah against Israel when they are not part of main stream Judaism but a fringe radical group of zealots. I also don’t see a big difference between NK and Satmar radical interpretations of the Torah against Israel.
Could someone please explain the huge preoccupation with a relatively tiny group[ of Jews and their problems when events concerning much larger groups of Jews goes ignored????
Jews are Jews no matter what silly things they do, and we have to realize,and practice love for each other and understand each other and finally UNITE! If we don’t, this nonsence hatred against us will be going on forever! We have to stop talking trash about our fellow Jews and become one nation!
It’s a shame that it needs to be said, but let’s clarify some basic facts. There is ahavas Yisroel, there is ahavas ha-aretz, and there is secular Zionism. The three are absolutley independant and have nothing to with each other. The biggest anti Zionistic kanoim, (Which included the Chofetz Chaim) did want to Jews to be killed or hurt because they were Zionists. Reb Aryeh Leib z”l (the son of the Chofetz Chaim) relates, that although mikvaos were one of the CC’s pet projects, to everyone’s amazement, he once refrained from going to inspect a mikvah in a certain town for 3 weeks. One day, leaving shul, he hailed a wagon got on and rode off. He returned shortly thereafter and explained: The Rov of that town was a Mizrachist. If he went to the town and did not meet with the rabbi he would be pogaya in the rabbi’s kavod. But he didn’t want to meet with the rabbi at all because he was a mizrachist. Leaving shul he remebered that this week was the world zionist congress and surely that rabbi would be there. He therefore quickly went to inspect the mikvah and he was able to not meet with the rabbi and at the same time not be pogaya in his kavod because he wasn’t there. – Darkei Avi z”l
Unlike the Chofetz Chaim, the poster here seem to think that their disagreement with the position taken by almost all gedolei Yisroel also requires them to be pogaya in their kavod as well.
Second story. The Satmar Roov zt”l was once sitting at a Satmar dinner near Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan with DPM’s aid, David Luchins, (now of Touro) sitting between them. It was the week before the senat voted on the sale of AWACs to Saudi Arabia and the Rebbe z”l leaned over and told Luchins: “Please tell the senator that the Jewish people are united against the sale of AWACs to Saudi Arabia.” Luchins, a little surprised, ask the Rebbe to repeat what he said to make sure he had heard correctly, the Rebbe repeated it and luchins passed it on. – (I personally confirmed this with Luchins when I accidentally wound up speaking to him on the phone concerning something else.)
In another similar story a politician seeking the Satmar (Jewish) vote told the Rebbe “I’m very pro-Israel” The gabbai braced himself for the ensuing firestorm… which did not place. Instead, to the Gabbai’s shock, the Rebbe told the politician “that’s very good.” After the politician left the rebbe explained: When a Goy says he likes Israel, it means he’s pro Jewish, that is not to be discouraged. It was known that Rebbe prayed that the secular medina should go under but without any loss to any Jew.
Lastly, the Lubavitcher Rebbe penned a letter found in Sha’arei Orah which, if not for the signature, one think it was written by the Satmar Roov. The Rebbe gives it to a guy over the head for suggesting that the founding of the secular state of Israel is the “Ischalta di’geula”.
That, not to be confused with that which the Rebbe required the defense of Eretz Yisroel which was in accordance with laws of Shabbos requiring the defense of ANY Jewish settlement, even those in a Goyisheh country and has nothing to do with supporting the secular anti-religious government in Israel. The Rebbe took his name off the Ocean Parkway Yeshivah because they played Hatikvah at a dinner.
The Ahava Yisroel of the Chofetz Chaim, the Satmar Roov, and the Lubavitcher Rebbe is beyond question or reproach. Their yearning for the return of exiled to a Jewish Israel far exceeded that of any secular Zionists, but that has nothing to do with the secular state which now finds itself on the holy land which once bore kings and prophets imbued with the fear of G-d. That said, the view of NK is much closer to that of the Chofetz Chaim, the Satmar Roov, or the Lubavitcher Rebbe, than to those that feel a Jew’s political aspirations should outweigh his spiritual ones.