Brooklyn, NY – The Biden Bridge? Is $500M Paint Job Too Far?

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    From left, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Deputy Transportation John Porcari, and Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz, listen as Vice President Joe Biden, right, speaks during a news conference in New York, Wednesday, June 2, 2010.  Vice President Biden appearance mark the start of the Brooklyn Bridge Rehabilitation Project with $30 million of stimulus funding.  (AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews)Brooklyn, NY – Work will begin soon on repainting the Brooklyn Bridge and expanding its on-ramps, a project that Vice President Biden and Mayor Bloomberg joined together last week to announce.

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    To those of us who use the bridge regularly and have bemoaned its decrepit state, or who have waited as traffic inched onto the bridge from the FDR Drive, this is something to celebrate. But for the federal and New York taxpayers who will wind up footing the bill, the cost is staggering.

    Consider: Even after adjusting for inflation, the $508 million project is $100 million more than it cost to build the bridge from scratch back in 1883.

    What’s the difference?

    The original bridge – a marvel of engineering at the time – was built and owned by a private company, albeit one with some government backing; the bridge is now owned by the city government. And between 1883 and today, the city, state and federal governments have passed all kinds of onerous laws that make building, painting or repairing anything a complicated and costly process.

    The Web site of the city’s Department of Transportation offers some clues to why it would cost $500 million to paint and improve a bridge. At that price, you’d think, you could hire 200 union painters at $1 million apiece, tell them to work for a year and buy their own paint, spend another $100 million on expanding the on-ramps, and still have $200 million left over in profits to spend on work by less expensive painters, like, say, Pablo Picasso.

    Here’s how the city describes the project: “Dust collection, vacuum and recycle units will be employed to minimize environmental air quality risks, and there will be continuous air monitoring during operations. All painting work will be conducted in accordance to the U.S. Environmental Protection Act and NYS Department of Environmental Conservation requirements. Noise generated by these units will conform to the NYC Noise Code standards adopted in 2007 … Lead paint is removed in a reverse-pressurized (negative air) containment system. Paint operations are monitored as per NYC, NYS and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency standards. Monitoring is conducted by an experienced environmental consultant firm retained for this purpose … We will publish brochures in Spanish and Chinese, and can accommodate any other community requests for additional languages.”

    In other words, the money isn’t all going to bridge painters or builders. Some of it is going to Spanish and Chinese brochure-writers, and some to an environmental consulting firm.

    Then there’s this. The painters and builders who will do the work on the bridge will be making a lot more than the $2.25 a day that original bridge-builders made, even after adjusting for inflation. City prevailing wage law dictates that painters using power tools on city public works projects earn $51.50 an hour, plus a “supplemental benefit rate” of $29.16 an hour. Time-and-a-half overtime kicks in after seven hour days, or on weekends.

    No one is in favor of pollution or starvation wages, and of course even New Yorkers with limited English skills should be able to access information about a major construction project that affects them. But it all comes at a price – $222 million in federal funds at a time when Washington is staggering under practically unprecedented levels of deficits and national debt, with the rest to be shouldered by New York City and state at a time when those budgets, too, are under severe strain.

    The cost is something to consider the next time lawmakers feel the urge to pass a law setting ever-higher standards for painting, noise, wages or foreign-language availability. If such laws had existed back in the 1880s, we’d probably all still be traveling back and forth between Manhattan and Brooklyn by ferry boats.


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    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Anyone know what a “supplemental benefit rate” that the workers recieve $29.16 per hour?

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    The mis-management of Federal, State and City monies is unfathomable, this job should be able to be done for $10m. The Unions have got to get some blame also.
    The negligence in these costs is unreal.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I wonder how much the ever-lasting work on the BQE is costing, they have been working before the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel for 10 years causing huge traffic back-ups, pollution etc for years. And most when when I past by no-one is working there!! The cost of this “repair” must be billions or even trillions of Dollars.
    remember when the FDR was being fixed before 34th Street, they were working there for many years, until someone in the press got wind of this, and made some noise about it.
    Need to find someone to get on top of the BQE mess, how many drivers are inconveniebeced daily by this work, even when there is 2 or 3 guys working there!
    I come from Staten Island daily and the construction on the BQE and SI Expresssway can drive you insane.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I wonder how many years it will take for the Brooklyn Bridge repair to be done, and if they will keep to the costs estimated in this article. I can gaurantee you it will run late, with huge cost over-runs and cause traffic backups thru the whole of Manahttan.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    Re they doing this work at nite or by day, if bty day I feel bad for anyone driving around the Brooklyn Bridge area in manhattan or Brooklyn because the traffic back-ups will be humongous!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    It wont help widening the lanes on the ramps onto the Bridge if the bridge lanes are not widened or increased.
    This is another Union gneiva, plain burglary, a job that should be done for a tenth of the price.
    If we got rid of the Unions in America the whole country, would look a little different.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    This will be traffic hazard in Brooklyn and Manhattan.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    It would be cheaper to build a new one

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    $508 MILLION to paint a bridge!!! Wow, someone is really screwing the State!

    ST
    ST
    13 years ago

    the only reason the Gov throws around the money like that, is because no one in the Goverment offices has worked for this money, for them it is some sheets with numbers, for us it is our hard earned tax money.

    no business would throw around money like our goverment does.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    This utter madness and highway robbery of public funds is completely un-sustainable and must come to an end soon.

    mp
    mp
    13 years ago

    I guess you could really sell the brooklyn bridge!

    How can I get a slice of the deal? I will vaccume paint … anything for a fraction of that money.

    Believe me, there are many people along the way filling their pockets.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    In order to save money i suggest the first place to start is with terminology. For example, instead of saying :

    “Lead paint is removed in a reverse-pressurized (negative air) containment system”

    You can say “lead paint will be removed with a vacuum cleaner system”. I’m sure a vacuum is cheaper than a “reverse-pressurized (negative air) containment system” even though they mean the same thing. secondly, if the paint isn’t chipping, and it’s been around for the last 30-50-80 years since the bridge was last painted, chances are it’s not going anywhere any time soon. It’s not like paint in a tenement. I can’t see small children being afforded the opportunity to lick paint from the bottom of the Brooklyn bridge. Keep in mind the bridge is largely brick which is not painted. How much would it cost to repaint a longer steel bridge like the Verazanno? A billion dollars? In times of economic downturn expensive anti-pollution laws that no other country in the world has should be repealed to create jobs and improve the economy. It won’t happen on Biden’s watch. Trees are more important than people.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    They should look into the systems they used to strip and paint aircraft. A large nozzle is pressed against the surface. From the center of the nozzle a high pressure stream of plastic bead (so as not to damage the aluminum aircraft skin) is shot to remove paint, the outer edge of the nozzle has a negative pressure area (vacuum) that recover the plastic media for reuse which is sieved and the removed paint is seperated for disposal. I’ll take the contract for 300 million with a guarantee of on time and under budget. No union workers allowed.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    “Work will begin soon on repainting the Brooklyn Bridge and expanding its on-ramps”

    Hmmmmm……Can anyone say Toll Plaza? They won’t be able to resist!!

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    FYI: supplemental benefits includes but not limited to the following:
    Vacation pay
    Sick pay
    Healty insurance
    Training
    Apprentiship
    Union dues
    Etc.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    How much is to built a new bridge have they considered that…. How about they give out the details and have companies provide competitve bids 500 mil I believe a lot of ppl will get rich in a short time

    Joe shmoe
    Joe shmoe
    13 years ago

    forgot to list biggest beneficiary the union making 300 million off this project!

    chuchem
    chuchem
    13 years ago

    its all about what we call “shmoir lee v`any eshmor luch” …Biden throws NYC a bone to shut there mouth on th Feds….of course with no cheshbon…

    Anonymous
    Anonymous
    13 years ago

    I am surprised that no one has made the point yet that if we have extre money we should spend it on section 8 these beggers are always thinking about themself and don’t give a monkey’s about anyone else